Hello,
campers! Welcome back to the Paradox discussion group! Tom
Tom
- Monday, August 02, 2004 at 18:40:48 (MDT)
it's been
awhile, but i'm glad our discussion page is up and running again. many thanks to
tom! i'll be glad to send the word out! meanwhile, i hope you are all enjoying
your summer. but, it's time to think about getting together again. there was
some talk about a reunion in NYC, but no one followed thru on it. c'mon guys,
where's the camp spirit?
bill rice
- Monday, August 02, 2004 at 21:42:45 (MDT)
Hey Tom, Many
thanks for getting us back in business.
Bri Clifford
- Monday, August 02, 2004 at 22:32:54 (MDT)
Thank's Tom.
I wondered what happened. I missed it.
Marc Stern
- Monday, August 02, 2004 at 23:41:23 (MDT)
Is there
anyone in Atlanta or is anyone going to the ABA convention there this week? MSS
Marc Stern
- Monday, August 02, 2004 at 23:43:22 (MDT)
Thanks a lot,
Tom, for keeping the discussion board alive. I hope some more Paradoxians will
contribute!
Ken Greenfield
- Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 05:45:24 (MDT)
Living in
NYC, I am all for the Apple as the location for any reunion planned.
David Dukes
- Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 07:09:51 (MDT)
Having a
great season. First semester is over and we are into the second. Color War is on
the horizon and the OCC's are better then ever! This years staff was
great....that guy from Italy was sure funny, and the lady with the same name as
a holiday is wonderful. I have enjoyed the stories around the campfire. I do
wish Bill Sunderland would let us rest a little. Those AAHPER tests are tough.
Mike Karol is one fast guy however. Don't know who is running for color war
captain, but hopefully Jim Cramer or Glen Graye will be in command. Had a great
time on the day camp started. Those Bal Cynwood buses beat the Alexander's bus
to Carol's for lunch. Boy, that dollar Alex gives everyone really can buy a lot
of burgers!!!! As the saying goes: A good time is being had by all. Monroe
Monroe Strongback
- Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 10:11:35 (MDT)
Is anyone in
touch with Bruce Inglass, or know where he lives these days.
David Dukes
- Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 15:11:39 (MDT)
Marc (and
others) - the reason the board went down is that the free service that we were
using, died. I had to get off my butt, find a new way of handling a guest book,
and then implement it. As for the AAPHER tests, I've carried my head high since
Paradox days, remembering the 100, then 200, then 300, then 600, and finally
1,000 situps, competing with Bobby Zuch (?). But then, last week I was bragging
to my physical trainer (at "the club") and he correctly observed that we did the
situps with legs straight, ankles held. It turns out that those kind (rather
than the bent knee, no-help we did later) don't really work the abs as much as
some muscle from the legs to the lower back.. a muscle that needs no
strengthening and in fact, hurts posture and back if too strong... Oh, well, so
much for 35 years of ill-deserved basking in glory! :-)
Tom
- Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 15:12:48 (MDT)
Tom: Many
thanks for keeping the discussion board alive and well. I will contribute
more...but believe it or not I must now go pick up my car at the service center
before it closes (11:00 PM) I like the night hours!
Rick Mittelberg
- Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 20:47:33 (MDT)
Thanks Tom. I
didn't realize how often I visited it until it wasn't there.
Marc Stern
- Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 00:37:03 (MDT)
Tom, it was
actually Steve Zuch with whom you competed in the situp contest. For some
strange reason that contest remains emblazoned in my mind. When Steve Zuch was a
cabin mate of mine in the "Log Cabin" in ' 68, in the morning he would put
weighted "spats" on his sneakers and would run all the way from Cabin 30(the
"Log Cabin") to the dining hall for breakfast. I guess "different strokes for
different folks" !
Ken Greenfield
- Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 06:52:06 (MDT)
Hello to all
of you after a fairly long hiatus... am still alive and well (in Santa Fe), and
very happy that the board is up again... and it's great to see your faces...
just spent time with the Before and After pictures taken at the reunion... my
goodness... it would have been a culture shock to be there with you, since many
of you still exist in my mind as you did from ages 10 to 15 or so... what a
difference... although I must say that the present day photos point out what a
good looking group of guys emerged from Paradox... it must have been the air...
or the water... or Ramsey's cooking... Must share a brief story about Ramsey -
the cook at the camp for the last seasons... on my last day at Paradox and what
was ultimately my last season, after we had put the camp to bed for the winter,
a few of us got together for a party that Ramsey held in his cottage... I was
not a drinker and never really became one later, but Ramsey made a potent drink
for us that night(served in 16 oz glasses) mixing Ripple and cheap vodka... not
being a knowledgeable drinker, I had four or five of these killer drinks that
night.. this was Ramsey's favorite drink... they even started to taste good
after one or two... next morning I found myself in my cabin in a pile of vomit
that was not to be believed and with not much of a memory of how I got there...
what a way to say goodbye to Paradox... needless to say I did not drink again
for a couple of years... Wanted to share another quick story... probably noone
really knows why I suddenly disappeared from the Paradox scene and from the
Landis' life after just a few years with you all... the Spring before my last
summer, I had met up with a group of young people (6 girls) who were the heart
of the Moonie movement in New York City... Sun Myung Moon of the late 60's and
70's period... my last summer at Paradox was strongly influenced by my
"conversion" to Moon's teachings not many weeks before I arrived at Paradox for
the summer... I had told the Landis' that I was about to embark on a new
adventure with the Moon children of that period... they were a really
spectacular (though small) group of young people who won me over to their
conviction (although certainly never to their faith)... I actually moved into
the Moonie compound on 160th Street Manhattan, just a day or two after the
Paradox season ended.... I am sure that the Landis' were somewhat confused by my
decision... I had worked very closely with them for a few years and this thing
came out of nowhere... it probably even hurt them a bit... it was quite an
interesting three year adventure that took me to the halls of Congress and into
the lives of many students in universities all over the US... I actually became
the temporary leader in New York before I finally left the Moonies a few years
later and headed off to Venice Beach to figure it all out... so leaving you had
a lot more to do with Moon than it had to do with the camp or the Landis
family... the "true believer" finally figured it out and left Moon far
behind.... what a crazy time the 60's were... and what a crazy adventure the 60s
and 70s opened up to me... more later... Am currently working on a new adventure
using Internet Radio as the launchpad.... more about that in future
correspondence.... for now, let's just say that DJ EaZy is busy learning about
electronica in all of its various flavors... loving the music that your kids
love and that you may soon learn to hope that they get over... Dennis is a big
dance fan... and travels to any event where there is dancing and music... Hope
that you are all well and that your journeys are as wonderful as they can
possibly be.. Love you all.
Dennis Cormier
- Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 21:01:54 (MDT)
By the way,
Tom... thank you and all you have done to keep wonderful memories and
friendships alive... you are the best... AND BILLY RICE TOO...
Dennis Cormier
- Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 21:05:50 (MDT)
A note to
Dave Dukes RE: Bruce Inglis -- he was from brookline, MA and i have looked high
and low for him and have not found a single lead. i thought he might end up in
greenwich village, if not back in boston, but not knowing what field he entered,
i have had no luck. And dear dennis, great to see you in print once again. just
to add to your Ramsy story... my first year as an ACIT, i attended a staff party
on crawford island. the staff made a spiked bug juice consisting of a fifth of
vodka, wine and bug juice. it went down a bit too easily and after 6 glasses, i
too, didn't feel too well. i remember vomiting over the sea ray on the way back.
i don't really remember how i made it back to the bunk, but vomited a few more
times that nite, but woke up fine without a hangover. it was my first, but
unfortunately not my last, encounter with the evils of alcohol. and yes, the
70's were a very interesting decade, too. be well.
Bill Rice
- Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 21:54:27 (MDT)
It's great to
be back in business! Thanks, Tom.
Neil Neuschatz
- Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 11:57:09 (MDT)
Tired of having to remember to
come to the Camp Paradox site to check the guest book for new postings? Want to
stay informed in a timely way? I've enabled the Paradox guest book so that it
can automatical notify you by email with the contents of new posts. This is
totally secure, and something I can easily turn on and off as you desire. The
more of us who have this enabled, the more active our board is likely to become
because we ll all see comments as they re made and be able to respond quickly.
I've enabled this instant notification feature for a handful of you who I
thought would like to give it a try. I'm happy to turn it on or off for any of
you at any time. Let me know if you'd like to try it! And remember, What fits,
fits, and what doesn t fit, doesn t fit. (Who can tell us who originated this
expression and when?)
Tom
- Friday, August 06, 2004 at 11:18:40 (EDT)
Larry Carpenter originated the
axiom, "What fits fits, and what doesn't fit, doesn't fit". He had a show on WCP
called "The Long and the Short of It". He also came up with a near-brilliant
axiom, that was part of the "Paradox Credo", which goes: "I believe in having
fun, realizing that fun is a state of mind and not of condition." Larry was a
brilliant fellow. Too bad that his "pedophilia" caused him to have a tragic turn
in his life.
Ken Greenfield
- Friday, August 06, 2004 at 14:36:57 (EDT)
It looks like us Floridians have
two Hurricanes to watch out for...right now the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale area looks
like we may be spared the brunt of Charley...but we'll get our share of the
rain. We were supposed to take our youngest to college in Orlando Friday...stay
tuned!
Rick Mittelberg
- Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 23:57:58 (EDT)
Rick, Where are you supposed to be
going in Orlando? My son, Derek, attends Rollins College in Winter Park.
Tony Braun
- Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 09:46:57 (EDT)
All three of my kids will be
attending the University of Central Florida in either the undergraduate or
graduate program. They all love it there...in fact my son is trying out for the
UCF baseball team and appears to be in rock solid shape. Heis in the process of
leaving his job at the Contemporary Hotel in Disney to concentrate on his
studies and baseball...he wouldn't mind a job closer to campus either. If any of
you ever get the chance to visit this campus I think you will be pleasantly
surprised. With the demand of in-state college students coupled with the influx
of out-of-state students, our state universities have thrived. Toni, Rollins
College is beautiful. My eldest daughter lives in Winter Park so we pass by it
when going into town. What is Derek studying and what year is he? Hurricane
Charley is now a Category two hurricane. We should be spared the brunt of this
storm...but watch out Ft. Myers/ Tampa...and even Orlando (even though it is
well inland). I hope all is well with my fellow Paradoxians.
Rick Mittelberg
- Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 15:02:05 (EDT)
All three of my kids will be
attending the University of Central Florida in either the undergraduate or
graduate program. They all love it there...in fact my son is trying out for the
UCF baseball team and appears to be in rock solid shape. He is in the process of
leaving his job at the Contemporary Hotel in Disney to concentrate on his
studies and baseball...he wouldn't mind a job closer to campus either. If any of
you ever get the chance to visit this campus I think you will be pleasantly
surprised. With the demand of in-state college students coupled with the influx
of out-of-state students, our state universities have thrived. Tony, Rollins
College is beautiful. My eldest daughter lives in Winter Park so we pass by it
when going into town. What is Derek studying and what year is he? Hurricane
Charley is now a Category two hurricane. We should be spared the brunt of this
storm...but watch out Ft. Myers/ Tampa...and even Orlando (even though it is
well inland). I hope all is well with my fellow Paradoxians.
Rick Mittelberg
- Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 15:03:21 (EDT)
Now that we are all "back," when
is it that we will have a real reunion with a voluminous turnout! That would be
fantastic.
Eric Landis <Landonian@yahoo.com>
East McKeesport, FUtah USA - Saturday, August 14, 2004 at 16:37:53 (EDT)
REUNION? Yes it would be nice to
have a monster reunion with a large turnout, but i'm still waiting for a
volunteer to organize one in manhattan in the near future. How about it campers?
where are our color war captains when we need them? hope all you floridians are
starting to dry off. well, all of us east coasters for that matter. be well.
bill rice
- Monday, August 16, 2004 at 14:38:38 (EDT)
With regard to a Manhattan
reunion, my wife just booked a private room for an upcoming function in what she
called a "really cool" Chinese restaurant in China Town. Congee Village. She
said the room will handle about 50 people, and is free for the evening if the
bill comes to at least $2,000. Room rental is $500 if less than $2,000 is spent.
There is a bar and a karaoke machine in the room. My wife said the food prices
were quite reasonable and the cuisine is authentic chinese, not
american/chinese. They also have smaller rooms or will section off a portion of
the restaurant at no charge. There are also a few places in Little Italy that
she found that will do the same thing for about $40 per person w/o booze
(private room or section of restaurant). Can we get a head count? I would be
willing to do some leg work if there is interest. David Dukes
ddukes@intlfoodcraft.com Work: 908-862-8810
David Dukes
- Friday, August 20, 2004 at 12:55:42 (EDT)
Aug 25th -- If my memory serves me
correctly, today (plus or minus one or two?) would have been the last full day
of camp. Color war has come and gone. That means tonight there's the awards
ceremony, circle around the flagpole, and finally, the event at the swim area
with the floating candles, taps by Joey Koplin, and the burning "2004" out on
the lake. (Any counselors out there ever participate in the burning part? Must
have been quite a hair raising event) As the flames on the "2004" flickered and
died, we'd turn, wander up the hill (counselors no doubt herding us), return to
our bunks, entertaining two conflicting emotions: excitement to get home, and
regret that the summer was coming to an end. Tom
Tom
- Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 21:01:55 (EDT)
Stumbled across the site, brought
back great memories. Have any mung? What was the name of the we snuck out and
walked to that was near camp? satlass@aol.com
Steve Atlass
- Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 21:30:08 (EDT)
Correction, What was the name of
the general store we went AWOL to visit.
Steve Atlass
- Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 21:59:04 (EDT)
We used to sneak out to Frau
Fortner's. On another snack note, I've been meaning to post here that I've
discovered that the SlimJim manufacturer Oberto is located here in Seattle. In
fact, their retail outlet is right around the corner from my house.
Tom
- Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 09:18:04 (EDT)
It was called Idlewild General
Store. It's still there, but the name has changed.
B. Rosen
- Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 23:53:12 (EDT)
I thought the Idlewild store was
down the road to the west and that Fortners was just a short walk past LF's
house to the east. As I recall from the past reunion the Fortners store was
gone.
Jim Anderberg
- Friday, August 27, 2004 at 16:53:33 (EDT)
Anderberg is correct as to the
location of those stores. I haven't posted for awhile and am hoping that this
isn't coming to a slow end. Great memories and good times. I understand that the
New York reunion in 2002 was great...just not well attended. The mini-reunion we
had in Philadelphia that same summer was great as well. We even had a wiffle
ball game with the great Bruce Graye making the final catch on a high pop to
third. Any ideas as to how we might generate interest to have a well attended
reunion? By the way, that wasn't an Eric Landis post....it was me...hoping that
would generate some interest. We need to think about a CP reunion for you and
me....in 2005 A.D. (sounds familiar doesn't it?) Hope everyone is healthy and
well.
Michael Salnick
- Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 08:18:12 (EDT)
Maybe everyone has one of these
boxes in the attic. My wife and I decided to go through all the boxes of stuff
we have stored in our attic in Houston untouced for almost 15 years, and most of
these boxes have survived 5 moves in the last 25 years rarely opened. I found
many old copies of letters I wrote from camp but I also found many copies of old
Paradoxian newsletters and winter stuff sent to my house. I have complete
Paradoxian weekly newsletters for Aug 5 1962 (2 copies), Aug 12 1962, Jul 28
1963, Aug 4 1963 (2 copies), Jun 28 to Aug 16 1964 (I believe I have every 1964
issue), Jul 1 1965, Jul 8 1965, Jul 18, 1965, Jul 25, 1965, Aug 15 1965 Aug 22
1965. (And I mean complete, even to the green WCP program guide) In addition I
have the playbills for Velda was a Lady (1962 parent s weekend production) and
the The Love Campaign with all the cast members. I also have song sheets with
all the words to all he camp songs, and the handouts for the 1965 color war (Joe
Jacobs lead the red team) Camp Paradox is a very good memory for me. But I haven
t looked at this stuff in over 20 years but I d like to give it to someone who
can help share it with all the old campers. I ll gladly send these to anyone who
wants them.
Chuck Muth
- Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 16:07:37 (EDT)
Greetings to all! glad to see the
renewed involvement. TO: David Dukes -- sounds great -- we can work together and
arrange something. we just need a consensus of date, day and time. saturday nite
or sunday will probably be best. but perhaps something closer to Penn Station
(Amtrak) to make it easier for those to attend. To: Chuck We (mostly Bill Rosen)
put much of that stuff together and digitized in a CD that we made available for
the 2002 reunion. Mike was right, it was great, just would have been better with
better attendance. so short of you subpoening everyone -- let's come up with a
better idea! it's strange, but i can hear Dvorak's New World Symphony in my head
as the summer comes to a close and i get goose bumps from it. Worse still, the
summer comes to a close much more quickly as we get older... hope this note
finds you all happy and healthy.
BIll Rice
- Sunday, August 29, 2004 at 00:04:17 (EDT)
The 2002 reunion was incredible.
What a trip. I would love to do a 2005 or 2006 reunion. The location is an
issue. Going to Lake George takes too long. Something near a major air port
would be significantly better. That being said, I would go back to Lake George
again. The CD from the Reunion was an incredible work. It is good to see this
board coming to life again. In one way or another Paradox affected all of us.
Sometimes for the good and sometimes for the not so good. MSS
Marc Stern
- Monday, August 30, 2004 at 21:43:27 (EDT)
Paradox trivia: Does anybody know
from where the counselor Freemon Jordan, a counselor in the 1965 season, got his
first name? Clue #1: It has to do with the "Underground Railroad" . Clue #2:
Take a look at the 1965 Camp Paradox photograph. He is in the back row, fourth
from the right, to the left of Eric Landis. Clue #3: It is related to the color
of his skin. Did I give you enough clues? It can't be easier than this!
Ken Greenfield
- Wednesday, September 01, 2004 at 21:27:54 (EDT)
I went out to the myfamily site today, after monthes of not having visited. Yes, Bri, I was on the winter Nawita trip with you, Deb, Larry (and Jack?). I think Jack carried me across the flooding water going into Nawita. I remember wandering around Nawita (having just been bought by Alex and Larry) with a huge key-ring, exploring. We all stayed in LF's Log cabin. (That night, Larry climbed into my sleeping bag with me ... although nothing more happened so know I escaped with no emotional scarring and little more than a bit of bewilderment at why anyone would want to sleep so uncomfortably.)
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I'm still trolling for all of you to let me put you on my computers "forward"
list. You'll get an immediate forward of any new posts here on the Paradox
board. There's no risk of spam, since my computer does the forwarding. Your
email address remains on my machine only. Come on, fellas ... This is the way to
breath some life into this forum. Already signed up: Jim A., the Bills, and Berk
have already signed up. Come on, Bri, Jack, Dick, Neil, Kenny, Jonathan, Andy,
Margie, Steve, Alan, Joe. With your permission, I'll add your email address to
the list. Don't miss out! :-)
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Tom
- Friday, September 03, 2004 at 11:01:02 (EDT)
How did all of the Floridians
weather the storm? My home in Ocala is a disaster area by all reports (I'm in
NY). We had many large trees come down on the property, as well as a ton of
debris and large limbs blown around. House is intact but no power or water. Many
tiles blown off the roof. Two tornados reported in Ocala. I just heard this
morning that the husband of our banker in Ocala, who worked as a maintenance man
for the local school district got blown off of a ladder and was killed. What a
mess.
Tony Braun
- Tuesday, September 07, 2004 at 13:16:55 (EDT)
I meant to say my home and the
area are a mess. The death is an absolute tragedy. I hope all of you are safe.
Tony Braun
- Tuesday, September 07, 2004 at 13:32:55 (EDT)
we expect to get about 5" of rain
here in north carolina in the next day or so from the remnants of frances. my
parents are in florida and still are without power/phone, etc., but are dry and
well. we moved to nc about 2 months ago and i have been on sabatical from work;
actively looking for new job. hopefully one will break soon. Sort of in limbo
until i find new employment - living in an apartment til we know what area we'll
be in - then will buy a house, put down roots, etc. main reason i responded to
the message board so quickly was because of tom's e-mail with the posting from
tony. if others agree to sign up, the board will become more active once
again.......... just do it! [as nike says]
steve berkowitz
- Tuesday, September 07, 2004 at 14:07:42 (EDT)
Reporting from Miami,
Florida...our area dodged a bullet of devestation and destruction. There are
power outages in our area, we received a ton of rain and pretty strong winds,
some beach erosion and structural damage to homes and businesses, but nothing
compared to what my Florida neighbors to the north experienced. I lived through
the aftermath of Hurricane Andrew so I know what these people are going through
as they try to re-build their lives. I can only say that time is the healer of
all wounds and patience and perserverance will pull them through. Help is
already present from all over the country and in times like this it really shows
what this country is all about, and I, for one, am proud! Lets hope Hurricane
Ivan bypasses us all!
Rick Mittelberg
- Tuesday, September 07, 2004 at 16:05:40 (EDT)
New reports from Ocala indicate
the place is a true disaster. Two Tornados. The entire area is generally a mess.
Power was restored to us Wednesday night. Gas rationing ordered by the local
authorities. Long Lines, short tempers. All gasoline purchases limited to Five
gallons.
Tony Braun
- Saturday, September 11, 2004 at 14:20:50 (EDT)
I hope that everyone has a happy
and healthy New Year.
Marc Stern
- Friday, September 17, 2004 at 19:30:46 (EDT)
I am now a true believer in
Hurricanes! After waiting almost eighteen years to live on the water, and having
done so four years ago with a new home, I must say that this Hurricane Stuff
needs to be taken seriously. With Frances, we had (fortunately) minor damage. I
learned about mandatory evacuation in the following way: The police came to our
home and asked that we evacuate since we live on what they call in these parts,
a barrier island. I asked what if I don't want to evacuate. They said, well sir,
then we need the name of your next of kin! With that in mind, we left! Coming
back was scary...and all I can say is thank god for shutters and what they call
PGT (hurricane glass) I hope and all Paradoxians in any hurricane area are safe
and healthy. Tom, please put me on the list.
Michael Salnick
- Sunday, September 19, 2004 at 09:01:42 (EDT)
Point! (As the leadership group
that would meet at Ole Lar's would say when someone caught something they
weren't sure of). Regarding the discussion of Fortner's... Wasn't the proper
spelling, "Pfortner's"? I don't know why I was thinking there was a "P" at the
head of the name. Can anyone verify that? I now return you all to your regularly
scheduled discussion. And Happy New Year to all.
Dick Rossner
- Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 01:10:40 (EDT)
I took out my 1964 Edition of The
Bluebook, and yes, indeed, on Page 57, it reads: " Each day following dinner,
one table of campers will be designated as the "Culinary Connoisseurs" and will
be entitled to a trip to "Pfortner's" at a time of their choosing. Tables will
be judged on orderliness and manners during lunch and dinner of that day. Judges
will be members of the camper government dining hall committee." ......I guess
it always was true that it's nice to have friends in high places!!!!
Ken Greenfield
- Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 17:55:27 (EDT)
Just found
this
In Memoriam: Grace Hudowalski. at www.adk46r.org. Those of you that were
hikers may remember Grace Hudowalski.
From the article:
"In recognition of her life-long service to the state and the region, the 46ers are spearheading an effort to rename the High Peak, East Dix, Grace Peak in her honor"
Jim Anderberg
- Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 11:42:01 (EST)
Interesting story with connections
to Paradox . . .
My youngest son, Christopher is attending the University of Vermont in
Burlington. One of his professors mentioned he had some downhill skiis for sale
and Christopher took him up on the offer. He had to go to his home to pick them
up. While there he noticed an SUV in the driveway with PARADOX for a license
plate. I'd taken Christopher to visit the camp when we were shopping around for
colleges so he knew all the PX stories. He asked his professor if the license
plate had anything to do with Paradox Lake. It turns out he owns a parcel of
land with a 1400' frontage on the lake that his grandfather originally
purchased. He remembers Camp Paradox as a kid and later on attending meetings of
some sort on the property.
Jim Anderberg (jimanderberg "at" ctel.net)
- Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 22:03:39 (EST) AM I THE LAST TO KNOW OR ONE
OF THE FIRST??? about Dorothy Fields singing the Paradox song written by her
brother Herb Fields (when he was dramatics couselor) and Richard Rodgers (when
he was swimming counselor) about a camper who finally swims out to the raft???
The set is called "Camp Paradox song" but it's nothing we ever knew about in the
mid '50's. Catch it on her CD An Evening with Dorothy Fields. The campers first
name was Ovid. (PS what other Paradox songs did they wirte?) Best Wishes Al
Oestreich MD
alan oestreich
- Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 18:11:48 (EST)
The approx 1920 song from Paradox
was O.V.I.D. R.O.S.E. Ovid Rose was a member of the clss of '33 at Princeton,
then went on to graduate degree at Harvard. He died recently at age 92. Dorothy
Fields tells the story in charming fashion on her CD. Alan
alan oestreich
- Friday, December 10, 2004 at 19:00:15 (EST) )
Just saw the picture of Richard
Rodgers in 1920 at Camp Paradox in his Paradox "P" shirt, with cabins and a bit
of a car in the background. I will e mail to any interested Paradoxians. It's in
Rodgers' biography Musical Stages from 1975. Al
alan oestreich
- Monday, January 03, 2005 at 21:58:36 (EST)