Seems I was a camper in Bunk H with Harmon Field back in the mid 50’s. memories abound (but not all the details). Here’s the parody Song I wrote in the style of Pogo “Far fetched Harmon, see his splendor, out to maintain stride. Stand encamped, buy us Old Briar; boys should shine outside. Dampened Glove, Pair of Socks,comb your hair, Mayor’s sons impair 3 coils; Warsaw heir from Rome.” names I recall well include Hal Levy, Larry Roth, Bobby Wald,Monroe Strongback. - Al Oestreich (I’ll be singing all day long Amici and the Faculty Song)

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.com) on July 7, 2003.

Can somebody tell me who or what Monroe Strongback was to us 60’s campers? - I remember it being mentioned a lot when I was in the younger bunks by I think Larry et al - this is the first time I knew he was a camper!!

Seems like this site is running it’s course. I hope campers still keep posting. If anyone cares, I found all of the photo albums from 66- 70 - when they were booklets with Paragons. I’ll try to get them posted one way or another if there is demand. Also found a lot of Paradoxians.

Contributed by Howard Benson (maxibenson@aol.com) on July 7, 2003.

When I arrived at Camp Paradox in 1962 I was introduced to all of the camp songs by Bob “Chipper” Seidel, who was considered the torch-bearer, in that he had attended camp back in the late ‘50’s. Among the songs he taught me was the “parody” version of AMICI, which I loved, especially the part...”dampened glove, pair of socks, comb your hair...”. I remember inserting these words when we all sung the song and nobody knew what I was doing. Now, to read the posting from Mr. Al Oestreich, I can thank him, and let him know that his version of the lyrics lived on long after he realized.

As for Howie’s question about Monroe Strongback, I always thought that he was a ficticious character whose tales were spun by the master storytelling webs of such people as Dick Rossner and Scott Landis.

Maybe Mr. Oestreich can further enlighten us?

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on July 8, 2003.

I had totally forgotten about Monroe Strongback. I seem to recall him being mentioned on one of the record albums. Now we need to track down the origins of Howie Kretz.

Contributed by Jim Anderberg (jim@ci.augusta.me.us) on July 8, 2003.

Monroe Strongback (“Stongback is the Word” was a camp song)was a fictitious Paradox “hero” ... play money at Paradox consisted of Strongback Bucks. DId I forget to add after “dampened Glove” the lines “injured mount, 10 knomes” ? GER Gerry ROselle was a friend indeed in the 60’s. I have the 1963 songbook if anyone wants to see it, etc. Al (pediatric radiologist in Cincinnati)

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on July 8, 2003.

Alas! The Paradox website is alive again! It’s not as great as if The Beatles had gotten back together again, but it’s close!!

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on July 9, 2003.

Mr. Howard Kretz was a real person, as was documented in the vintage “Paradoxian’s” that were reproduced for inclusion by Bill Rosen for last year’s CD ROM.

He must have been quite a character though for his name to live on for the last 90 years!!

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on July 9, 2003.

As they say, “First impressions last a lifetime”, I can remember that it was almost exactly forty years ago that, in the summer of ‘63, I stepped into the bus departing from the Landis house in Highland Park, N.J., and the first Paradox camper that I met on the bus was “Pip” Bryant.

Curt Williams was the first Paradox counselor that I met on that bus, and I remember on the way up to camp, we sang “Peter, Paul, and Mary” songs, and discussed the news of the days.

The personality that stood out in the news at that time was Christine Keeler, the call girl that serviced the men in the English Parliament, causing a scandal in the British government.

The first night at camp in ‘63 we went up to Rodgers Hall to watch the staff put on their welcoming show. The counselors did “The Twist”, dancing in time to the Beach Boys hit, “I Get Around”.

The saddest part of the reunion last summer was seeing that nothing remained of Rodgers Hall. That building was the “soul” of Camp Paradox, where we would attend shows, register for Elective Programs, listen to candidates for Camp Government give their election speeches, and sing camp songs together like “Hiking to Marcy” and “The Last Ride to Ti’”.

Rodgers Hall also housed the infamous studios of “WCP” and the offices of the “Paradoxian”.

The only thing that remained last summer was Cabin 6, where you could still read on the bathroom wall “Larry Carpenter says, ‘What fits, fits, and what doesn’t fit, doesn’t fit.’”

It was appropriate that Larry’s famous aphorism still remained.

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on July 9, 2003.

more on songs from the 50’s: 1. a short “fragment”: was “Halfway to the Halfway” (that’s all it was) 2. to the tune of Hernando’s Hideaway: “I know a place by Paradox Lake, where guys and gals do congregate, a glass of beer, perhaps a date, it’s called Bill Clautise’s Estate.” 3. and now the corrected full text of the parody Amici: “ Far fetched Harmon, see his splinter, out to maintain stride. Stand encamped, buy us Old Briar, boys should shine outside. Dampened glove, pair of socks, comb your hair, injured mount, ten gnomes..Mayor’s sons impair three coils, Warsaw heir from Rome” [done in the style of Walt Kelley’s “Deck us all in Boston Charlie” from Pogo. ---- Al

Contributed by Al oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on July 11, 2003.

I’ve always wondered about the Burlesque show tune (“If you smoke at home you can smoke up here, cause we want you to feel at home. There’s a rush on McGills for tobaccer, if you don’t own a pipe you’re a slacker. Frolickstein and Collegistein walked a mile for a camel, and in time to come we’ll hand out opium, cause we want you to feel at home.” I’m sure I’ve got the words all wrong. And perhaps at one time I knew the source (Richard Rodgers) of this song. Some younger campers may not even have heard this song, since it was, it seems, a secret. I wonder if the song’s words, place mentioned or guy(s?) are known to any of the pre-1960’s campers? - Tom PS It’s time to remove and archive the first 80% of this file. I’ll do so soon...

Contributed by Tom (Tom) on July 22, 2003.

Tom,

I remember a slightly different version of the same song, differing only in the second stanza. It went like this:

If you smoke at home, you can smoke up here, ‘cause we want you to feel at home. There’s a rush on McGill’s for tobaccer. If you don’t own a pipe you’re a slacker.

When the weather’s wet, you can play roulette, if a counselor is with you,

And in time to come we’ll hand out opium, ‘cause we want you to feel at home.

I remember one summer Alan Shier and I made up some new lyrics for the Beatle’s song “All My Lovin’. It went like this:

Close your eyes, spread your legs. Let me fertilize your eggs, and send all my sperm through you.

And then when we are done, we will have one more son, and then we will try for two.

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on July 22, 2003.

I’m sure Mr. Shier is proud of that one!!

But on the subject of “We Want You To Feel At Home”, I seem to recall that this song only existed in lyric form for my first few years at Paradox, but then around 1966 I believe, we actually found some original sheet music, considered by some to have actually been penned by Rodgers himself. After some amount of urging we got George “Shotgun” Melhorn to work out the song on the piano, and then Dick Rossner and myself, then known as “the joy boys of radio” learned how to sing it and subsequently got the whole camp into it. It became an all time favorite. As for some of the names mentioned in the lyrics, Bill Frolichstein was a frequently mentioned person in those vintage “Paradoxians” and seemingly must have fancied “Camel” cigarettes at one time.

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on July 22, 2003.

I thought the line went: Frolichstein and Weil in collegiate style would walk a mile for a camel

Contributed by Jim Anderberg (jim@ci.augusta.me.us) on July 23, 2003.

There were two stanzas to the “At Paradox we aim to please” song. I think we are hearing postions of both somewhat mixed up.

Contributed by Marc S. Stern (mstern at abanet.org) on July 24, 2003.

indeed, both correct. from 1953 Paradoxian, the whole thing as we SUNG it then:

“At Paradox we aim to please, and so to make to feel at ease, One day we took a notion, To pass a little motion, We’re showing our devotion, And so the law decrees:

CHORUS If you smoke at home, You can smoke up here, For we want you to feel at home; The a rush on M’Gills for tobaccer, If you don’t own a pipe you’re a slacker. Fohlicstein and Weil, in collegiate style, Walk a mile for a Camel, And in time to come, we’ll hand out opium, Cause we want you to feel at home!

If you drink at home, You can drink up here, For we want you to feel at home. For the Freshmen we’re giving a smoker, There’s no harm if the children play poker, When the weather’s wet. You may play roulette. if a counsellor’s with you, And when things get slow, We’ll run a burlesque show, For we want you to feel at home!”

... the slogan in the magazine ads at that time was still “I’d walk a mile for a Camel” (I think I mentioned “old Briar” pouch tobacco in my Amici Parody partly because of this Feel at Home song ... Al Oestreich

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on July 24, 2003.

sorry ... corrections to my comment on the Song:

it’s make YOU feet at ease THERE’S a rush and, of course FROHLICSTEIN

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestrreich.ae@cchmc.org) on July 24, 2003.

Neil: I remember your sharing the song, somewhat conspirationally, sitting at a table at the BBQ near the flagpole. And Al, thanks so much for your postings on this and other subjects. It’s nice to have someone from your “Paradox era” active here.

Administrative Notes

1. I have archived the 12 months from July 2002 to 2003, so the page you’re currently reading will load more quickly. We have a complete set of archives of the postings here, going back to 1999. (You can get to them from http://www.campparadox.com/launch.htm, which is where you probably just came from, so try your browsers back button...)

2. If you’re curious about how search engines work and how people find the site (mostly non-campers…) - from which search engines and with which search strings - I’ve posted a copy of the logs.

www.cam pparadox.com/Raw.htm - This is the raw logs. You can cut and paste the URLs in this log directly into your browser to see the same search page the user saw. It’s interesting to see what they’re searching on and where…

www.campparadox.com/Edittted.htm - Logs that I’ve edited, removing some of the illegible characters. If you’re just going to browse the logs, this is a much easier read.

The files are quite large: 1 or 2 megs, so if you’re using dial-up access, it’ll be a bit of a wait...

My personal site (www.campparadox.com/tom) gets a lot of hits for the TS Elliot quotes I have on it, as well as the stuff from India.

I think you’ll be amused and curious about some of the things people are looking for. I’d love to know who was looking for “Tom Field” in “Denver.” Or how about “Jack Francis Guitar”?

Comments on these logs are welcome.

Contributed by Tom (Tom) on July 25, 2003.

In our day (early mid 50’s) it seems as if Coach Lou Rossini brought many of his basketball stars from COlumbia to be counselors at Paradox... Here’s I song I believe I wrote with Hal Levy, possibly modified or even partly written by GER, probably for the Annual Musical: “What we want from Paradox is summed up in this song: We want 3 beds, we want 3 meals, and no work all day long. Television sets for all. Soda bar in the old rec’ hall. Man, we’ll have a crazy ball at Paradox. and now you’ve heard the story ‘bout the way our day should go. and if there’s any more we want, we’ll surely let you know!”... did annual original musicals continue in the 60’s? Did you know about the camp songs written by Gene Sickle (perhaps he wrote “Hooray Hooray, my Baggage left today”)

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on July 26, 2003.

Chip Seidel. If you had asked me, I would have had no remembrance that he had a “real” name. I do remember, though, him teaching me the old camp songs (like EddieKuchieKatchie...) while on Howie Kretz hikes. Anyone know where he is to

Contributed by Bri Clifford (drbri4@aol.com) on August 4, 2003.

Hey Tom,

I think I forgot to congratulate you on your cycling & fundraising. The cycling part suggests that the old “intrepidness” hasn’t been rung out of you yet! Bravo.

Contributed by Bri Clifford (drbri4@aol.com) on August 8, 2003.

A lovely color contemporary photo of 1953 era camper Dave Chapin (known then as “Mighty Mite” as he was short and strong) can be found at http://www.bidmc.harvard.edu/obgyn/staff_chapin.h tml. He’s a Prof of gynecology in Boston. One of many of us who attended Camp Arrowhead in Western New York before coming to Paradox. al

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on August 8, 2003.

Bobbie and I just returned from Holland where our son, Derek, was invited to compete in his first European competition. For those of you who don’t know,he is an equestrian athlete. It was quite exciting as, last Sunday, he defeated forty of the world’s best amatuer riders to win his first international Grand Prix, representing the USA. It was truly UNBELIEVABLE! They called him into the center of the Grand Prix Field, in Valkenswaard, south of Eindhoven in the Netherlands, raised the Stars and Stripes, asked everyone, in multiple languages, to please ‘Rise for the National Anthem of the United States of America’, then played the Star Spangled Banner for Derek. It was a moment we’ll never forget. For anyone interested, you can go to the website csivalkenswaard.com, click on english, then click on ‘photos’. If you scroll down to the last picture on the left you can see me and Bobbie with Derek. Derek has red tabs on his collar.

Contributed by Tony Braun (TonyBobbie@aol.com) on August 11, 2003.

If you have trouble getting to the web site, use the complete address www.csivalkenswaard.com, that should work.

Contributed by Tony Braun (TonyBobbie@aol.com) on August 11, 2003.

speaking of awards ... how about mid50’s camper David Milch of NYPD Blue, etc, who in 1999 received the Paddy Chevefsky Laurel Award fot Television; not to mention many Emmys, Writers Guild award, Humanitas awards, etc.? It would not surprise me if he snuck at least one oblique reference to Camp Paradox into NYPD BLue. Any of you TV fans remember any? (he is known to have snuck in references to his hometorn Buffalo) Al

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on August 19, 2003.

hi guys! it’s been a while. hope summer has been enjoyable for you all. moved in late june and am renovating another house. it’s 5 houses down the road from my last one (which is 5 houses down the road from the one before that). this is my 10^th house in the last 20 years, but boy, i’m getting old - can’t quite do what i used to. anyway that’s not why i am adding a comment. who remembers howie uniman? i have some dealings with a law firm in northern nj. was given a firm brochure earlier this week. was looking thru it and guess what - ran across the professional resume and a picture of howie. tried to call him but he’s out this week. i have talked with his assistant who told me he is the howard uniman who went to camp paradox. will hopefully connect with him soon and plug him into the discussion board.

Contributed by steven berkowitz (berks1@optonline.net) on August 22, 2003.

Does anyone remember the trip, in ‘65 or ‘66, to the RPI Field House, in Troy, NY, to see the Dave Clark Five? I was listening to an oldies station today and the Beau Brummels came on. For some reason it brought me right back to that night. I remembered that they were one of the MANY other bands that preceded the DC Five. Does anyone remember any of the other bands that played that night?

Contributed by Tony Braun (TonyBobbie@aol.com) on August 22, 2003.

i often think about the DC5 concert at RPI, tony. i remember the screaming girls and couldn’t for the live of me understand it (still can’t). don’t remember the other bands, tho. sorry.

Contributed by bill rice (drbill@writeme.com) on August 22, 2003.

I remember the DC5 as well as another concert in Saratoga. It was the Supremes, with some relatively unknown (to me, anyway) warm-up act by a Stevie Wonder. I’ve remembered over the years that they had to literally push him off the stage... he wouldn’t stop performing. In the last week or so I read an account of the same thing happening this summer at one of his concerts!

anonymously

Contributed on August 25, 2003.

In the 50’s we Paradoxian campers (and the counselors) were all given Indian names (for the Indian campfire ceremonies and the Iroquois vs Mohawk competitions). I was “Afghan Hound”; David Milch was “Burning Stone.” did this tradition continue in the 60’s? Al

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on September 2, 2003.

Rovner and I are at a loss - we both cannot remember what we did after dinner every night before lights out - I’m drawing a blank!! The only thing I can think of is trying to go to Pfortners with Clifford or to Idylwild for goodies.

Contributed by Howard Benson (maxibenson@aol.com) on September 16, 2003.

I have fond memories of the staff water-skiing that would happen after dinner. I always aspired to ski like Bill Rice!

Contributed by Jim Anderberg (jim@ci.augusta.me.us) on September 16, 2003.

Jeez Howie, how could you forget that perennial Paradox favorite, MINOR CLUB!!, every tuesday and thursday evening.

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on September 18, 2003.

What is Minor club???!!! I do remember Watermelon or something

Contributed by Howard Benson (maxibenson@aol.com) on September 18, 2003.

There was always cookies and bug juice in the dining hall before lights out for the “under classmen”, the rest of us gorged oursevles on cheeseburgers at the Chez...and if you were lucky enought to get Flonichers car....there was the Kipp for Bacon cheeseburgers......ahhh the days of low cholesterols

Contributed by alan shier (alan553@aol.com) on September 18, 2003.

I just found the C.P. site. I‘ts great! Anyone remember the “Moths”? Marty, Dick, Neil, Scot....any of you guys out there! Jim Filenbaum

Contributed by Jim Filenbaum (LOJRF@aol.com) on September 24, 2003.

Wasn’t Bruce Gelber also in “The Moths” ?

Who can forget their rendition of “Mrs. Brown You’ve Got a Lovely Daughter” which was captured on vinyl on one of the camp albums?

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on September 24, 2003.

OK, now that Simon & Garfunkel have announced their plans for a reunion tour, don’t you think “The Moths” should do the same? It’s nice to have you aboard, Jim. If the truth be told, it was the driving backbeat of Jim Filenbaum’s drums that gave “The Moths” their rockin’ sound. I’m sure Bruce and Marty will probably disagree, but that’s the way it was.

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on September 25, 2003.

another song from the deep past of Paradox: refrain begins “ Look out! there’s ladies on the hill; they are trying very hard to make the grade” and has the historic line “As his ma comes up the pathway; Sonny beats it to the halfway” ... rarely sung in the 50’s. still known in the 60’s? among the field trips in 1954 - Sterling Animal Farm in Lake Placid; among the dances with grils camps Camp Rondack (a bit down the road?) Al

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.com) on September 27, 2003.

Al—My wife went to Rondack for seven years in the 60’s. I’m told they preferred dances with the likes of Idlewold or Brant Lake.

Contributed by Tony Braun (TonyBobbie@aol.com) on September 27, 2003.

Hum, after dinner? I seem to remember canteen, or was that in the afternoon. Counselors in the know could bum the odd licorice or two from campers with fist-fulls of them if they positioned themselves well. I do remember competitive doings near the campcraft bldg. - horseshoes, caber-tossing, various life- threatening doings on the monkey bridges when they were up. I bet all the possibilites are clearly spelled out in one of the “colored” books (wasn’t everything?.

Contributed by Bri Clifford (drbri4@aol.com) on September 30, 2003.

As I recall, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday nights after dinner there were things like horseshoes, canteen,and for those who participated, the watermelon softball games. Tuesday and Thursday were minor club nights. It was always kind of fun just hanging around after dinner, kind of free time until lights out.Anyone know the whereabouts of “Bullet” Bob Segan?

Contributed by Michael Salnick (salnicklaw@aol.com) on October 2, 2003.

Anybody remember trying to outwit the “O.D.”? One Monday night in ‘67 I remember the “O.D.” on duty that night was Ken Moore. It was after “lights out” and we were making a lot of noise in Cabin 18. Moore stormed into the cabin enraged, saying that on Monday nights he was the “O.D” in the Senior Unit, and he would not tolerate any noise after “lights out”!

The next day I went on the airways at WCP and dedicated the “Psycho of the Year” award to Moore.

I was a little scared that he might have been listening, but nothing happened. I dedicated the song “Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday” to him. Apparently I ignored the fact that it was the wrong day of the week to bestowe the award, but that didn’t matter to me. I was just feeling a little “rebellious”.

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on October 2, 2003.

One of my top memories from the early 50’s CP: Us Western New York campers came to the Adirondacks by chartered Pullman (sleeper) cars from Rochester. We were parked in them overnight waiting for buses at the time of a Total Eclipse. I brought my “safe” frosted glasses and watched early in the morning (must have been a solar eclipse).What a way to start a camp season! -- question to all you 60”ers - did you have chartered train cards in your era? and where are the 50’ers who might also remember? al

Contributed by al oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on October 6, 2003.

GER went about “recruiting” some of his old boys from the late fifties era, prior to the re- opening of the camp in ‘62 by Landis/Carpenter. Among these guys, I recall Steve Rosen, who ran the radio station, Dick Kroll, who ran the “Paradoxian” and most notably, David Milch. David was incredible, even back then at a young age. You could just tell that this guy was special. This, of course, was later confirmed through his stellar and award winning TV career. Don’t forget it all started on the Paradox stage! It would be neat if Al could get to David and get him to make a contribution to this board. He was very close to GER and surely must have some great tales to tell. How ‘bout it Al?

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on October 7, 2003.

During the 1960’s the usual method of transport was busses from Highland Park, Philidelphia, and somewhere in NY. I remember stopping at Carrols for hamburgers. There were alternate methods. Some people had their parents bring them and I remember one person was picked up in the family helicopter.

Contributed by Marc Stern (mstern at abanet.org) on October 14, 2003.

hi gang: i remember the helicopter, too, marc. but i believe that was gordon howard’s (?) parents coming up for visiting day one year. it was some site. wonder how he’s doing?

Contributed by bill rice (drbill@writeme.com) on October 18, 2003.

Al- The train service by the mid ‘60’s was pretty spotty. I do remember picking up, with Jesse Strauss, a counselor (Gabriel Erasmi, from Italy where they still take trains), at the Fort Ti station (which was a VERY small building) along 9N south of “metropolitan” Ti. Do you have photos of your time period at camp? Maybe you can add them to either this site or the “My Family” one. They would be a great addition to the really old ones, and those most of us have added from the

Contributed by Bri Clifford (drbri4@aol.com) on October 21, 2003.

I think that the helicoptor belonged to Mark Michaelson’s family. Gordon Howard’s family had a limousine.

Contributed by Marc Stern (mstern at abanet.org) on October 22, 2003.

Us normal people went by a hot bus and stopped at Alexanders in Jersey and then Carols for hamburgers. The last 2 hours of that trip were brutal.

Contributed by howard benson (maxibenson@AOL.COM) on October 22, 2003.

I’m at a computer conference in San Diego until Friday, October 31, and then I’ll be staying with my son in Irvine Saturday/Sunday, flying out Sunday night. Any of you guys out on the west coast - email me if you think it might be possible to arrange a brief get-together.

Contributed by Jim Anderberg (jimanderberg@gwi.net) on October 29, 2003.

Just wanted to wish all my fellow Paradoxians a happy, healthy, peaceful, and safe Hanukkah, plus best wishes for a prosperous New Year!

Contributed by Bruce Singer (Saltcreek@charter.net) on December 20, 2003.

I can only second what Bruce said. It’s time to think about another reunion, perhaps in 05?

Contributed by Marc Stern (mstern at abanet.org) on December 26, 2003.

Another reunion sounds like a good idea to me, especially since there have been so many Paradoxians that have found the Paradox website after the 2002 reunion was already over.

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on December 27, 2003.

another reunion sounds great to me! now if we could get paradoxians interested in getting together again—it’s been very quiet on this site lately.

i know there was some talk about getting together in NYC at some time, but we’re still waiting.

Any ideas, fellow campers??

best wishes for a happy & healhy new year!

Contributed by bill rice (drbill@writeme.com) on December 29, 2003.

the discussion board has been real quiet for the past several months. hope the new year is going well for all readers. strange question for you all - my son (last child home) will be heading off to college next fall and my wife and i are looking to leave the ny/nj area. looking to move to nc. we seek a quality of life change and all that stuff. the cold is getting to me, too. does anyone know of any paradoxians in the tar heel state? still to young to retire, so i’m just beginning to network/look for a new job. any help would be really appreciated! let me know - thanks..........

Contributed by steve berkowitz (berks1@optonline.net) on January 19, 2004.

The Chapel Hill area is beautiful. However it still snows in the Carolinas. Try Florida.

Contributed by Tony Braun (TonyBobbie@aol.com) on January 20, 2004.

hello from the Middle West. If a reunion were near here, it might be of interest. But your implied bigger question might be worth a shot - were do we Paradoxians now live? I’m for example in Cincinnati

Contributed by Al Oestreich (oestreich.ae@cchmc.org) on January 20, 2004.

Seattle

Contributed by Marc Stern (mstern at abanet.org) on January 21, 2004.

A small world department ...

I met a woman today at a gathering of friends. She mentioned she grew up in the Schnectady area so I asked her if she ever got up to the Adirondacks. I told her I had worked at a boys camp in upper state NY and had hiked a lot in the mountains. She asked which camp and when I mentioned Paradox she asked if I knew the Sunderlands. Turns out her brother is married to Tony Sunderland. She had an interesting story to relate about Ethel Sunderland, Bill’s wife. They had retired to Florida and after Bill died Ethel got into competitive ballroom dancing at age 90!

p.s - note the new email address.

Contributed by Jim Anderberg (jimanderberg@ctel.net) on January 24, 2004.

Anybody in the West Palm Beach Area? Bobbie and I are in Wellington, Fla. until mid-March for the Winter Equestrian Festival. Be happy to have guests if any of you are interested in seeing Olympic level Grand Prix Show Jumping.

Contributed by Tony Braun (TonyBobbie@aol.com) on February 23, 2004.

.....shrouded under the darkness of the night, The Phantom Paradoxian makes his first visit to the ailing Paradox website, to stimulate his fellow Paradoxians to once again participate in reminiscing about the “old days”....

....Who is this anonymous camper? ....What bits of evidence and clues to his identity does he leave behind????????

“One brief question, my fellow Paradoxians: Who was Fred Fine, and what year(or years) was he at Paradox?”

....There will be more clues in nights to come, but for now I must make a hasty exit back into the darkness......

.....I shall return!!!

anonymously

Contributed on February 27, 2004.

Fred was the cabin 14 counselor in 1966. I believe he was in the aquatice department, although I’m not as sure about that.

It’s funny the little things your remember about a person. I remember Fred had this foldout aluminum tanning reflector that he would hold under his chin so he would get an even tan.

Contributed by Jim Anderberg (jimanderberg “at” ctel.net) on February 27, 2004.

I added a link on the c.p. home page to bring up the “Then and Now” picture that Bill Rosen put together.

You can also get to it by clicking http://www.campparadox.com/ThenNow.jpg .

Why? Because maybe some never found it on the myfamiliy.com site. And, because I’ve had the picture on my desktop for quite some time and I always get a thrill when I look at it—so many faces I never expected to see again. All those counselors, heroes to so many of us then and now. The pictures are such a great reminder of how young we were, how wondrous the Paradox experience was, how much richer we all are for the Landis-Carpenter partnership having come into being.

Sometimes I gasp to myself when I look at the pictures, shocked at the juxtaposition of the young we were and the not so young that we’ve become... Part of the shock is seeing a Norm Tracy (to single out one of so many in the picture) -- first I peer at the original picture, a picture I studied more than a few times (in the Paradox photo albums) over the years, wondering what had ever happened to that guy who had come in and (seemingly permanently) out of my life, apparently never to be seen again. And, then!, amazing... unexpectedly, almost impossibly, out of nowhere, so many of us managed to cross paths again!

Once again I’m struck by how I so respected and admired and, yes, idolized all those counselors, a mere few years older than we were, but man-gods to us teenagers. Would that we all can have the positive influence on those we encounter as they did on so many of us!

Thanks, Bill, for giving us such a great way to remember.

Tom

anonymously

Contributed on March 5, 2004.

I did put together a bunch of ‘Then and Nows’ for myfamily.com, but the credit for this one goes to Dr. Bill. Go Doc!

Contributed by Bill Rosen (bandit41@verizon.net) on March 8, 2004.

As you may know, the Adirondack Museum, in Blue Mountain Lake, NY, is producing an exhibit this year on “Camping in the Adirondacks in the Twentieth Century”. It should be an interesting exhibit, and will certainly include mention of most of the more reknowned camps in the Adirondacks.

When Bill Rosen put together that awesome CD for the renunion I had supplied him with some stuff that I had saved up, including some vintage Paradoxian’s from 1913 and 1923 respectively, which were lovingly reproduced for inclusion on the CD. Well anyway, I wrote to the curator of the museum and asked them if they wanted these vintage issues to include in the exhibit. They replied that they would indeed be interested and would like to retain them in their permanent collection. Apparently, the curator is also working on a book on camps in the Adirondacks and was excited about the prospect of having this material available to assist in the research.

They mentioned to me that they were also in receipt of a “stack” of Paradoxian’s from a Mr. Bob Lewitt, who it seems had attended Paradox from sometime in the late 1940’s through the mid 1950’s.

Hopefully, with the material provided we can insure that “Paradox Lives!” for future generations. Never Forget!!

Contributed by Neil Neuschatz (nneuschatz@capitaltempfunds.com) on March 9, 2004.

Kudos to both Billy R’s(Rice and Rosen) for capturing the 2002 reunion and being able to juxtapose the past and the present.

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on March 10, 2004.

What I found most striking in Bill Rice’s pictures was catching Ole Bri’ Clifford in the same profile from the ‘60s and 2002. Nothing much has changed in Ole Bri’s silhouette except for some gray hairs and a beard.

Contributed by Ken Greenfield (keng.rph@verizon.net) on March 10, 2004.

actually, bill rosen gets credit for the photos of ole bri!

Contributed by bill rice (drbill@writeme.com) on March 19, 2004.

Is there any in the Phoenix area? I may be there later this month.

Contributed by Marc Stern (mstern at abanet.org) on April 3, 2004.

Although there’s no much activity here, I thought I’d alert you that I changed this site’s address to www.campparadox.com/px. You can use the old address and will be transferred to the right site though.

Hope everyone is having a good Spring!

Tom

anonymously

Contributed on May 17, 2004.

It’s been a good spring indeed. We get out of school in a few weeks and then it’s off to camp for another summer. YEA!! Going shopping next weekend to get my shorts and my canteen and my flashlight and, of course, those pesky iron-on labels with my name imprinted on them that will become affixed to my underwear - and will itch all summer long - so that my underwear doesn’t become confused with someone else’s.

See y’all in the parking lot of Alexander’s in Paramus.

Contributed by Bill Rosen (bandit41@verizon.net) on May 24, 2004.

Hooray, Hooray, my baggage left today I’ll be singing all day long Amici and The Faculty Song Hoorah, Hoorah, I was born ‘neath a lucky star I’ll be singing every day Till I go away

I’ve got a little tent at Paradox I’m looking ahead I’ve picked out my bed There’s no train can get me there too fast

They’ve got a mayor up at Paradox The money he saves The boy never shaves He’s got that hairy ape lashed to the mast

I cannot sit In school a bit Without a lonesome sigh

Just like a midget I fret and fidget Till that hill I spy, oh uncle

I want to swim out to the summer house I want to be there Breathing the air In my tent at Paradox, N.Y.

anonymously

Contributed on May 25, 2004.

Sorry Bill, Alexanders is now an IKEA

Contributed by Alan Shier (ALAN553@AOL.COM) on June 1, 2004.

hi all you avid campers. are you getting packed for another summer of fun? my trip to paradox from now on is about to become a little longer - by about 9 hours. back last december i mentioned i was thinking about moving to north carolina. a lot has happened since then. sold my house, quit my job [but i’m still working for another 3 weeks] and am busy packing things up. but instead of heading north to the adirondacks for the summer, we’re heading to nc on june 30. my son ben is about to graduate from high school - and there is really nothing left to keep us here in nj. wasn’t thrilled with my job. and the house sold for a lot more money than i’d ever pay for it. so we just did it. my wife is a little anxious from the whole thing. she likes to have life all planned out. and moving to a new area/state, without a job at this point, has her a little worried. but in the old paradox spirit - we’re just going to do it. all the pieces will fall into place in the coming months. have been reluctant to buy a house til we figure out where i’ll be working, so for now w